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by justiceleague on Wed Jan 30, 2008 at 08:28:00 AM PDT
Obama's statement rings very true...
by ReEnergizer on Wed Jan 30, 2008 at 08:33:23 AM PDT
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by Straightforward on Wed Jan 30, 2008 at 08:46:39 AM PDT
He votes in Illinois... not sure what your point is
by Steven R on Wed Jan 30, 2008 at 08:49:49 AM PDT
"They're trying to fool you. They're trying to scare you. And they're not telling you the truth." Obama '08
by bawbie on Wed Jan 30, 2008 at 08:50:02 AM PDT
early ... this morning
Which pundit most resembles Ruby Rhod?
by wystler on Wed Jan 30, 2008 at 11:58:25 AM PDT
Just, wow.
You, sir, are a like a Hitler burrito, wrapped in a Mao fajita, with low-sodium Stalin sauce.| Strategy08.
by turneresq on Wed Jan 30, 2008 at 08:50:11 AM PDT
Obama 2008
by cato on Wed Jan 30, 2008 at 09:24:10 AM PDT
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by mistersite on Wed Jan 30, 2008 at 09:29:02 AM PDT
...you should shake your fist while saying that. ;)
by Spunkmeyer on Wed Jan 30, 2008 at 10:43:11 AM PDT
"Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect." Mark Twain
by dotdot on Wed Jan 30, 2008 at 12:07:23 PM PDT
John McCain - Fifty-four Forty or Fight!
by kitebro on Wed Jan 30, 2008 at 03:28:56 PM PDT
Heard on NPR this morning: Reason given by leader at a major CA university for student body supporting Obama - (Paraphrased) We are tired of going home and you can't discuss politics because some of the family are Democrats and some are Republicans.
NPR: And you think Obama can fix that?
Student: yes.
Head explodes.
Obama said after the SOTU address that he wanted to be the kind of president where the whole room would be standing and applauding. REALITY CHECK: We have a Congress that has enabled the president to believe he can enter into a treaty with Iraq without their approval. Rhetoric ain't going to cut it!
Blood 4 Oil War 2
by TXsharon on Wed Jan 30, 2008 at 09:15:28 AM PDT
I was talking to a co-worker today about the election and how I felt the country really, really needs a break from the Clinton-Bush polarization we've had for the last two decades, i.e., presidents who were viscerally detested by huge chunks of the populace. He said something to the effect of "yeah, like when I pull into a parking space and the car next to me has a Bush sticker, I don't even want that person to exist".
I said that I could imagine pulling into a parking space with my Obama sticker next to a car with a McCain sticker and actually striking up a friendly conversation about the election without meeting immediate hostility.
To the extent that an Obama/McCain contest would allow Americans to debate policies, issues, and the direction of the country without the miasma of hatred we've had surrounding elections for the last four years, it's to the good, I think.
by DavidSewell on Wed Jan 30, 2008 at 09:28:50 AM PDT
until the same forces that demonized the Clintons go to work on Obama. The GOP has nothing positive, and they are going to fight like a cornered animal. Everybody likes Obama NOW... that's because they don't realize what a fill-in-the-blank he is.
I hope i'm wrong.
Injustice anywhere is a threat to justice everywhere. --Martin Luther King Jr.
by NoMore on Wed Jan 30, 2008 at 09:53:51 AM PDT
Any attempt to 'demonize' Obama will backfire - it'll look overtly racist if they attempt to address him on anything other than policies and facts.
Look how that backfired for Clinton.
Sponge Bob, Mandrake, Cartoons. That's how your hard-core islamahomocommienazis work.
by Benito on Wed Jan 30, 2008 at 10:08:28 AM PDT
You are not living in the world we live in.
The GOP / Right Wing attack dogs are not gonna stop just because you hope they will.
Black / White / Women - In their eyes We are there enemy. End of discussion.
by totallynext on Wed Jan 30, 2008 at 10:17:17 AM PDT
But it will backfire on them.
It's a whole different dynamic operating. This will be nothing like 2004.
Some people fight fire with fire. Professionals use water.
by Happy Days on Wed Jan 30, 2008 at 10:57:13 AM PDT
Tou are not reading the words that appear on PC monitors world-wide.
Benito did not say the GOP slime machine will stop.
He said the slime attacks will fail. End of discussion.
Psst! Don't panic
by Quicklund on Wed Jan 30, 2008 at 11:10:07 AM PDT
If ever there were a theme this year, it's that Rovian tactics just don't seem to be sticking, like in prior elections.
Time will tell, in the general election, but it seems voters are increasingly prone to rebuking those tactics, at the ballot box.
by Aquaman on Wed Jan 30, 2008 at 02:14:39 PM PDT
or settle for a definite "oh fuck."
With Hillary in the WH, our stupid national discourse will get worse. With Obama, at least there's hope (ha ha! get it?) for improvment.
All extremists are irrational and should be exposed
by SeanF on Wed Jan 30, 2008 at 10:09:49 AM PDT
"Hey!", exclaim Clinton supporters, "The GOP might beat up on Sen Obama in the general election. Better not take the chance of that happening."
They stop there but then my damn mind betrays me. It goes ahead and finishes the paragraph for them. "So we better run Sen Clinton. The GOP is guaranteed to beat her up in the general elections."
You come to expect a lot of illogic inpolitics. But this example really takes the cake. Thanks for the ray of sanity.
by Quicklund on Wed Jan 30, 2008 at 11:17:05 AM PDT
I don't think it will work for them in a nation so angry with Dubya and the Repugs, though.
It's sad to me, though, that some Edwards supporters will land with HRC, who represents everything I (and I think most of us) oppose in the Dem party-- DLC hacks, chumminess with those she used to consider part of the "vast right wing conspiracy," support of the Kyl-Lieberman bill, no absolute commitment to remove combat troops from Iraq by a date certain, defense of lobbyists, etc..
Obama is far from perfect, and his ending his boycott and going back on Faux News really disturbs me.
But with Edwards gone from the race, Obama is the only candidate left who believes the system is broken, and the only one who has plans to cause a true Democratic realignment.
There is good rational reason for what some call "irrational" anti-Hillary feeling on this site, as Hillary would oppose us on nearly every intra-Democratic Party disagreement we have.
With Obama we can't be sure he'll be with us on most of those, but he'll be with us more often than HRC will.
I gave up on Edwards' chances to win before Edwards did, and began advocating for Obama, because I know what a disaster for our party HRC will be-- not because she'll lose the election, but because electing her won't change much and will bring back the DLC hacks.
Electing Obama will change much more than electing HRC will. I urge everyone who supports the fights that DKos has had with the Dem establishment to support Obama at this point.
Economic -3.50/Social -2.41 End Dubya/McCain neocons. Obama '08!
by CenterLeft on Wed Jan 30, 2008 at 02:07:44 PM PDT
Strong advocacy there CenterLeft. I agree. Sen Obama is not perfect, but he has two things going for him. He is obviously very intellegent and he is sincre, I feel, an wanting to leave the world a better place than he found it. This is not such a bad combination.
by Quicklund on Wed Jan 30, 2008 at 04:56:39 PM PDT
It's damned disappointing, but I guess I'm getting on the hope wagon. I don't like the hope wagon, I prefer the "gee, like those policies" wagon. But I said yesterday I was strapped on the Edwards wagon unless he dropped out, and well, guess it's time to look for new transportation.
As I've also said repeatedly, if I'm wrong and Obama does bring about a huge transformation of the country, I will not only admit I was wrong, I'll celebrate. Heck, I'll even share my champagne.
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by Magenta on Wed Jan 30, 2008 at 11:17:09 AM PDT
Here's rudeness, pettyness and a lie. This is the unity candidate?
http://www.mydd.com/...
I am amazed that Claire McCaskill went along.
by CanadaWest on Wed Jan 30, 2008 at 11:40:40 AM PDT
to someone who race baited you? to someone who lied about your record? to someone who cant run an honest campaign? to someone who has used every trick out of karl rove's playbook?
Many observers believe Fidel Castro will either be replaced by his brother Raul, or by his idiot son, Fidel W. Castro.
by DanFreeman on Wed Jan 30, 2008 at 12:03:33 PM PDT
... I am supporting the eventual nominee whomever it is, but so help me, if I see one more post referring to "The Snub", I will toss my independence right out the window and support Obama full-throatedly!
And to think, it's the Obama supporters that get accused of using Main Stream media talking points....
Sorry for the rant, but seriously, can I get a new (relevant) objection to Obama getting the nom. please... Something issue-related maybe...?
Like the nominee, don't like the nominee... Our nominee is still better than John McCain.
by Jen K in FLA on Wed Jan 30, 2008 at 12:04:15 PM PDT
"We the People of the United States..." -U.S.Constitution
by elwior on Wed Jan 30, 2008 at 01:29:15 PM PDT
Hey, I guess the RWNM will try anything, why not this one?
I heard his wife is black, too!
Without a struggle, there can be no progress. -Douglass
by Tybalt on Wed Jan 30, 2008 at 02:27:41 PM PDT
This is high school b.s.
by dotdot on Wed Jan 30, 2008 at 12:10:22 PM PDT
and take a nap or something. I suppose you believe in the easter bunny too. Here's a clue, The media makes shit up.
The trick is in what one emphasizes. We either make ourselves miserable, or we make ourselves happy. The amount of work is the same." Carlos Castaneda
by FireCrow on Wed Jan 30, 2008 at 02:15:03 PM PDT
.. because spamming this comment all over dKos just isn't working out...
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by highacidity on Wed Jan 30, 2008 at 04:02:12 PM PDT
and don't worry about sharing yours ... you can have a glass of mine
by wystler on Wed Jan 30, 2008 at 12:01:28 PM PDT
And here's hoping you were wrong! I pretty sure that'll be the case, and I'll have a glass or two of that bubbly when transformation gets under way.
by elwior on Wed Jan 30, 2008 at 01:27:56 PM PDT
by djscincy on Wed Jan 30, 2008 at 11:38:59 AM PDT
tried, and Obama has shown that he will set the record straight before it's too late....and the people are clearly indicating that they are fed up with these types of political dirty tricks.
by PLS on Wed Jan 30, 2008 at 11:07:50 AM PDT
she and Bill have their own unique set of baggage that they bring to EVERYTHING.
you're comparing apples and oranges when it comes to how people will treat them, how they will be attacked, etc....
i think we've all been a bit cynical about what can be achieved, since 1992 with the same two families back and forth.
by DanFreeman on Wed Jan 30, 2008 at 11:48:56 AM PDT
I will be supporting obama, partly because he doesn't have all the baggage. My point was just that a lot of the baggage hillary has was created for her by the wingers. They will try to do the same for whomever we nominate.
We're already hearing ridiculous bullshit implying that african americans will riot if "their" candidate isn't chosen... implying to whites that "they" are all violent and TAKING OVER THE COUNTRY!!!
All i'm saying is that it isn't going to be easy.
by NoMore on Thu Jan 31, 2008 at 08:42:31 AM PDT
Has he ever been known to go negative? Maybe (and I know this is a big, big maybe) he won't be willing to wrestle in the muck.
And I agree, that slime on Obama will fail.
by Tybalt on Wed Jan 30, 2008 at 02:26:17 PM PDT
It's my reason for hoping it's an Obama-McCain general election race.
by DiedInSuburbia on Wed Jan 30, 2008 at 09:55:43 AM PDT
most civil Presidential race imaginable. And the best part of it is that we would win, hands down. The issues are WELL in our favor, and we would have the better candidate!
by elwior on Wed Jan 30, 2008 at 01:33:47 PM PDT
McCain might not authorize big time Rovian attacks, but he will attack. Of course the same people that brought you the idiotic Obama is a Muslim email will find something equally disturbing to do, and they will film and air it. People who "support" the candidates, particularly on the Republican side, are going to throw so much mud it will make Bush look like a clean campaigner. The Republican party is pinning its hopes for power in DC on the presidency and there is no way they are going down without throwing everything they can find or create.
by pgm 01 on Wed Jan 30, 2008 at 01:48:57 PM PDT
But McCain-Obama would yield the most civil race. The least civil would be Romney-Clinton, which I shudder to think about. However, because Rudy G. is now gone, the worst of all, the one the MSM was praying for (particularly Tweety) will not be happening, the Rudy-Hillary no-holds barred death-match!
by elwior on Wed Jan 30, 2008 at 04:07:36 PM PDT
by condorcet on Wed Jan 30, 2008 at 03:50:29 PM PDT
civil discussion here between Obama and Clinton supporters and those two agree on almost every issue.
We are the ones we've been waiting for.
by Same As It Ever Was on Wed Jan 30, 2008 at 10:23:58 AM PDT
Clinton's dirty campaign tactics to thank for that... the issues have nothing to do with the hostility.
Barack Obama - Experience the Change.
by Ziggystardust125 on Wed Jan 30, 2008 at 10:45:41 AM PDT
But around here it flows both ways.
by Same As It Ever Was on Wed Jan 30, 2008 at 01:00:51 PM PDT
And I hate, hate, hate, hate, hate, hate, hate the idea of bombing Iran, and staying in Iraq for 100 years.
Through all this world of pain and sorrow, we still can have singing tomorrow. --Pete Seeger
by Castine on Wed Jan 30, 2008 at 11:11:06 AM PDT
We never should have gotten in, and Obama can rake him over the coals on that one. But McCain can't retreat to the position that their policy is the same now. Obama wants out, McCain wants to stay forever. McCain CAN argue the issue successfully with HRC, whose position WAS the same as his until 2006. And once the policy is in place, good or bad, he can now make the "White Flag" arguement. The thing I worry about with Hillary Clinton is does she get more Hawkish once again for the GE if she wins the nomination?
by elwior on Wed Jan 30, 2008 at 01:41:24 PM PDT
that the current crop of Republicans have foisted upon us (especially the lie that anyone who disagrees with this current misAdministration are in league with al Qaeda) has been more destructive than 20 Hurricane Katrinas or 50 Kansas tornadoes. The problems that face this country are too big for one group to solve on their own -- we need to come together and work together to find workable solutions.
I remember an era when "Republican" wasn't a synonym for "wingnut fundie asshole", when Republicans stood up in Congress and denounced Nixon's actions in Southeast Asia, when Democrats and Republicans could agree that Richard Nixon should be impeached without it being seen as a political "stunt". I may disagree with many traditional conservatives, but can still respect their points of view -- not so with the current crop of theocons and neocons.
If we can recognize that honest people can disagree on issues but that doesn't make them evil (and we on the Left are just as guilty of that as those on the Right), only then will we be able to marginalize and mute the hatemongers of FAUX Noise and right-wing hate radio...when we learn to see each other as people it's going to be a lot harder for either side to be demonized.
"Old soldiers never die -- they get young soldiers killed." -- Bill Maher
by Cali Scribe on Wed Jan 30, 2008 at 11:33:03 AM PDT
Dream on.
Next time I tell you someone from Texas should NOT be president of the United States, please pay attention. In Memory of Molly Ivins, 1944-2007
by truebeliever on Wed Jan 30, 2008 at 11:37:38 AM PDT
play nice with any of our candidates.... We could run God himself and they would attack him.
Keep that in mind.
by Jen K in FLA on Wed Jan 30, 2008 at 12:08:56 PM PDT
Bill Clinton had (up until this election), enjoyed widespread respect and affection. Off the pages of Kos, many non-Obama supporters continue to echo those sentiments ... politically incorrect though they may be.
To the point at hand: If you think debating the issues (you know, dollar issues, blood (war) issues, faith issues and human rights (no torture, GLBT rights, abortion) are gonna be done fairly and with civility ... enjoy the dream.
You're going to see fear-mongering, accusations of "tax and spend," "cut and run," and all the other odious slogans the media so LOVES to include in its soundbites. Meanwhile ... the issues?
Experience Failure 2008: McCain
by crescentdave on Wed Jan 30, 2008 at 12:06:43 PM PDT
Neither is going to tamper much with free trade, neither is going to restore top-end taxation levels of civilized societies, and neither is going to downsize the military empire.
Those facts set the main course of America probably for the rest of our lives.
So this choice comes down to a choice between the hope that the experienced candidate doesn't lose the legislature and state & local governments as it did the last time, or the hope that the novice's rhetoric will change the national tone enough that indispensable power of hate and fear of the right won't work any more.
As far as I can see, this coin is all edges and no sides. But with no good choice I can see a lot of people opting for the greater novelty.
We are called to speak for the weak, for the voiceless, for victims of our nation and for those it calls enemy.... --ML King "Beyond Vietnam"
by Gooserock on Wed Jan 30, 2008 at 09:36:08 AM PDT
the General Election neither of these candidates will be considered a moderate choice if they are nominee...perception in America is often times not very accurate. Sorry for the negativity - I'm just very worried, not that my concerns weren't virtually the same when Edwards was in the race since he wasn't going to get the nominee.
by JrsyGrl on Wed Jan 30, 2008 at 10:41:10 AM PDT
Howard Dean was a moderate whose rhetoric made everyone believe he was a liberal.
Barack Obama is a liberal whose rhetoric makes everyone believe he's a moderate.
Trust this one. It will work out OK.
"The great lie of democracy, its essential paradox, is that democracy is first to be sacrificed when its security is at risk." --Ian McDonald
by Geenius at Wrok on Wed Jan 30, 2008 at 11:59:19 AM PDT
He was probably 11 or 12 when Bush talked about being a "Uniter, not a divider".
He probably isn't old enough to know that in today's America, "unity" to a Republican means "Do everything we say or else we'll stomp our feet!" and to a Democrat means "Ask for what you want, then compromise by meeting the Republicans half-way, and then compromise by giving the Republicans everything they want so they stop stomping their feet."
You can have your "Under God" back when I get my "Liberty and Justice For All" back.
by karateexplosions on Wed Jan 30, 2008 at 09:37:04 AM PDT
Is that why Nancy and Harry can't get Justice on the table? It's all covered up by those angry stomping GOP feet and fists? When will majority leaders Nancy and Harry take the reins and decide it's time to tell the GOP to get their stinky tapping feet and dirty hands off the agenda table, and serve up some heaping platters of long overdue Justice?
Speaking of inaction, our Senate Ethics Committee is still unable to determine if a convicted Sen. Larry Craig has violated any ethics to which the Senate adheres. The ongoing silence and inaction says more than we might want to know about the Senate.
When life gives you wingnuts, make wingnut butter!
by antirove on Wed Jan 30, 2008 at 10:22:58 AM PDT
than it did when he said it.
I watched it, and he parrotted back some of John's own words to me, and told me that he was going to be my John Edwards now. Meh. He didn't even get the words out in the right order.
John Edwards' message is NOT Barack Obama's, and Barack Obama is not an easy replacement for much of what Edwards stands for for me. He's going to have to do more than appropriate JRE's speeches to get my vote.
Right now, I'm still voting for Edwards in the AZ primary. And watching and listening very carefully. And if Obama wants to be my new Edwards without having to prove himself to me, he can add him to his ticket before Super Tuesday.
In the general, I'm behind whatever we put forward.
by kate mckinnon on Wed Jan 30, 2008 at 11:06:37 AM PDT
I don't much care which of them wins in the primary, so long as they pull it out in the general.
I think Obama has a better shot of that, so I'm going over there rather than voting for Edwards in the primary, but I didn't buy the Obama is suddenly going to carry Edwards' banner convincingly either.
But whomever isn't the GOP 2008. Lots less enthusiasm than I'd like to have, but I'll try to work some up in the coming weeks.
by Magenta on Wed Jan 30, 2008 at 11:21:09 AM PDT
you might consider the background as a community organizer. he's actually gotten his hands dirty trying to end poverty.
"Meh?"
(methinks you've been sold a bill o'goods)
by wystler on Wed Jan 30, 2008 at 12:05:28 PM PDT
I had my candidate. He dropped out. I have to settle. For at least today can I just settle rather than having it explained to me yet again that Obama is the bestest candidate ever?
I have been sold no bill of goods. And I find him "meh."
I'm sure you wouldn't prefer I vote for Clinton in my primary, so just take what you get. "Meh" for your guy is better than "meh" for his opponent.
by Magenta on Wed Jan 30, 2008 at 12:13:15 PM PDT
Having been through backing losing candidates a few times in my 62 years, it's a kick in the gut when "my" candidate loses. And it takes a while to whip up enthusiasm for another. However, come the main race, you'll find yourself fired up to win in November. The stakes are very, very high.
by bigforkgirl on Wed Jan 30, 2008 at 02:40:38 PM PDT
And I will find that enthusiasm, but damn. People who think telling me I'm an idiot for not seeing their candidate as in the same light they do just don't do themselves, their candidate or me any favors in getting down that road.
Thanks for the words of encouragement. If I could muster up enthusiasm enough to canvass for Kerry at least a couple of times when I was five months pregnant, I'll find enough to work for whomever we nominate in the fall. If anything, I find them both preferable to Kerry.
And if I'm pregnant at any stage by November, this will be the worst damned presidential election year ever, at least for me!
by Magenta on Wed Jan 30, 2008 at 02:50:03 PM PDT
of the quoted statement in your diary? Thanks.
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by sardonyx on Wed Jan 30, 2008 at 08:33:34 AM PDT
the statement as posted on a mybarackobama blog
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by vbdietz on Wed Jan 30, 2008 at 08:41:10 AM PDT
I want someone whose going to fightback. As an Edwards supporter since 2002... ...I'm moving to Hillary.
She's tough and smart, and beyond that she is caring mom...
...and this nation needs a strong mom after 7 years of an abusive father
Draft College Republicans.
by demwords on Wed Jan 30, 2008 at 08:46:17 AM PDT
and this nation needs a strong mom after 7 years of an abusive father
I think I'll need to think on that one. I am agnostic on our nominee as I'm quite sure any Democrat would be better than any republic, not ebven voting tuesday but I'll be working for the nominee come summer/fall
A view from the border you need to see.
by buddabelly on Wed Jan 30, 2008 at 08:49:33 AM PDT
Barack has motivated hundreds of thousands of young people to become involved in the political process. Many of them (my kids included) have never known life without a Bush or Clinton as President. These new voters are fired up, energized and ready to go. My fear is that if Clinton receives the nomination they will become disillusioned, disinterested and not turn out in November.
Just sayin' ...
"The question isn't 'Is America ready for Barack Obama;' the question is, 'Is America ready for a smart President." John Lovitz
by Kdoug on Wed Jan 30, 2008 at 09:10:15 AM PDT
...why they are or Obama other than the act that he is the new brand. They don't even know that he is pro-nuke power plants.
by demwords on Wed Jan 30, 2008 at 09:20:32 AM PDT
There is no purity test to vote Democratic.
by Quicklund on Wed Jan 30, 2008 at 11:21:34 AM PDT
too. I live a half hour away from one. I would rather live near that than a crap spewing coal plant which releases more carcinogens than a nuclear power plant. We need to find a powerful source of energy that is not nuclear but in the mean time nuclear is better than more CO2.
by pgm 01 on Wed Jan 30, 2008 at 01:53:27 PM PDT
Most of the people i know are in their 20s and not one of them expresses any excitement about Hillary. Not only would they not turn out in November, but they'd tend to grow cynical about politics in general and become the swing voters of the future rather than a significant part of our base.
by Urizen on Wed Jan 30, 2008 at 09:21:18 AM PDT
rock star is not on the ballot than they have learned nothing in this process.
by demwords on Wed Jan 30, 2008 at 11:47:00 AM PDT
Status quo on both sides with HRC vs. a Repug.
That's not entirely an accurate way to see it, but Hillary doesn't seem to have any trouble with business lobbyists writing legislation and the like.
Obama might or might not turn out to be too much of a compromiser. However, he also might significantly reform the system.
We know we don't get much reform with Hillary.
by CenterLeft on Wed Jan 30, 2008 at 02:19:05 PM PDT
..because their "American Idol" candidate is not the nominee what have they learned?
by demwords on Wed Jan 30, 2008 at 09:22:14 AM PDT
...in a pro-Edwards diary from thankful obama supporters are not worthy of anyone's time or interest.
McCain: Without Issues, Without Vision, Without Integrity. --- or Obama: With Truth, With Kindness, With Endurance.
by CupofTea on Wed Jan 30, 2008 at 09:25:48 AM PDT
to get the hell off your lawn, while you're at it. Disgusting.
a new musical instrument
by ubertar on Wed Jan 30, 2008 at 09:26:05 AM PDT
and the worst kind of age discrimination.
These young people are putting in time, effort and money. I know because I've seen them. I phone-banked for Obama for 4 hours on Saturday and saw 14 and 15 year old people who were really excited about the process.
I don't understand why anyone, even Hillary supporters would bitch about young people being interested in politics. They will inherit this party, maybe sooner than you think.
